South Sound Science: Geogology, the Foundation of South Sound Life

Wendy Gerstel, Qwg Applied Geology, talks about: “Review of South Sound geology and influences on the ecological landscape.”

Wendy:

Instead of fitting into the “threats an indicators” boxes, better to think about geology in materials and processes.

Materials: clay, silt, sand, gravel.

Processes: glaciation, deposition, plate techtonics.

Water is a big part of geology as well. Surface run-off, groundwater and waves, for example.

She also refers back to Charlene’s talk, that this give us an understanding of how things change over time.

Wendy is showing slides that give a picture of the geologic layout of South Sound, the glaciation of the entire Puget Sound (I wish I could show these to you).

Another slide with a map on debris flows. These provided a lot of sediment into Puget Sound drainages.

A lot of the effort from geologists has been put into creating these geologic maps.

Glacial till covers most of the South Sound, with the latest glacial till being, loose sandy till.

Most of the “layering” (that she’s now showing in her picture presentation) are from glacial deposits.

It is important to set a geologic framework to what you’re studying.

Questions:

Does the Squaxin oral tradition refer to geoglogic events and their impacts?

Wendy answers that while she doesn’t know specifically for the Squaxin Island tribe, there are references.

Jeff Dickison (Charlene Krise has left), there is a time when things were different geologically. For example, there are stories in Squaxin tradition that include salmon running up the Deschutes River above where the lower falls are.

South Sound Science: “Using data to improve environmental health”

Marianne Seifert, Tacoma Pierce County Health Department, speaks on:

Newly implemented environmental health indicators for shellfish growing area pollutants, swimming beach advisories, mercury and PCBs in salmon, and stream flow, precipitation and aquifer levels.

Marianne moved down from the stage is moving around the room:

In addition to talking to scientists, in deciding what to measure as environmental indicators in Pierce County, they also talked to policy makers. It is important to track indicators that will actually gets peoples’ attention.

They also wanted to make their eventual report easy for people to digest and make the connection between land, water and air obvious.

Economic impacts were important to note because “not all people are motivated by health, but practically everyone is motivated by economics.”

Not just personal actions, but also policy decisions that would encourage good land use and recycling, for example.

One of the things that Charlene talked about that really was interesting to Marianne is “why are we doing this.” For scientists it may be as easy as “we’re scientists, this is what we do.” But, for most people, that isn’t enough.

That is what the indicators report is about, to motivate people to action. After the report is done in June, they will be holding a series of forums in September.

They will also be trying to fill in data gaps, so she asks the people in the room to help out, even if they are outside Pierce County. The scientists in the room know what is going on out there, so they can help out.

At the forums, they’ll also start deciding what the community values are for restoring the ec0-system.

Questions/Answers:

Can you talk about no change as being as important as trends? How does one interpret no change?

Marianne: Think about what causes change or no change. For example, population growth. There is an asumption with population change, that everything should be getting worse.

What are the things, policy decisions for example, that are preventing things from getting worse? What are the assumptions that make us think that things should get worse?

What are the top 3 environmental health issues in South Puget Sound?

Outdoor air quality is a big issue. We’re (at the county health department) not doing much about it. We’d like to do more, but because of funding problems we can’t.

Transportation is another issue. It will take large scale policy decisions being made. It will involve everyone and it impacts so many things like air quality and stormwater runoff. Also a lot of heart disease.

And, transportation related to stormwater.

South Sound Science: Charlene Krise’s welcome: traditional ecological knowledge

UPDATE: Audio selection from her presentation here.

Jeff Dickison, assistant natural resources director for the tribe, introduces Charlene Krise, a tribal council member and director of the tribe’s museum and research center.

Jeff:

Science in the restricted sense, that many of us think of it today, is the scientific method. But, science refers to any knowledge base than can predict events.

I’ll hopefully also have audio of Charlene’s presentation later in the day.

Here are some pieces from Charlene’s talk:

There are stories from the 1930s of Budd Inlet when the beaches “were white with shellfish” and that if you went to these beaches today, they would be covered with silt, with no shellfish.

The tribe is known as the “People of the water” and their traditions and stories are connected to the land and to the water.

Traditional teachings, Squaxin tribal members are taught about protocol and respect for the earth.

During tribal events, many people wear read and black. Red is the signify mother earth, black is to signify honor.

The tribe also has sacred places that are very much like churches, and that birds and animals are the best teachers.

“Our people believe that if you watch, look and listen you can learn so much about the beaches.”

The potlach ceremony is not meant to show who has the greatest wealth, but rather to share and help other people understand knowledge of the earth.

Sometimes, we don’t pay attention to the land and end up doing damage.

At one time, when the tribe was going through hard economic times, she came upon a clear cut near the reservation. It impacted her deeply, and “changed her.”

She eventually came to visit the tribe’s natural resources department and learned that the long term damage of the clear cut was already being repaired. That led to her volunteering with watershed groups.

Initially, she was shy during the meetings, but always talked about the tribe’s “love of the land.”

She thinks the people in the room today really do have the same passion. “Keep on doing the research and talk to tribal members.”

At South Sound Science Symposium? Send me your updates

I’m probably not the only one here today with a laptop open, so if you have any of your own updates or observations, please feel free to email them to me. Just let me know who you are and what you’re seeing and thinking.

eoconnell (at) nwifc (dot) org

Thanks!

UPDATE: 9:03 a.m. Just a note on these updates. I’m trying as hard as possible to get direct quotes from presentors. When I do, I’ll surround them with “quotes.” But, typically when I write what a presentor says, it will be an indirect quote.

South South Science Symposium updates here

Throughout the day, there will be regular updates from the 2009 South Sound Science Symposium being held at the Squaxin Island Tribe’s Little Creek Events Center.

Here is some background information on the event:

The purposes of the Symposium are to build from last year’s successful event, connect the region’s scientists on ecosystem issues and questions, and explore the threats and indicators unique to South Puget Sound. We will explore a variety of topics and relate them back to some central questions:

  • What do these observations mean?
  • Are there changes in the region’s food web?
  • What are the consequences?

You can find regular updates at this link.

Here is the agenda and here are abstracts of the various presentations and posters.

Squaxin NR Staff Speaks to Stream Team Salmon Stewards

On the evening of Thursday September 11th, Squaxin Natural Resources staff spoke at an Advanced Salmon Stewards Training.  Each year Thurston County Stream Team recruits volunteers to be trained as Salmon Stewards and stand at the 5th Ave Bridge/Tumwater Falls to answer questions from the general public about the returning adult fall Chinook.

The training started out with a talk from Larry Phillips, fish biologist with WDFW.  His talk focused on Tumwater Falls Hatchery and Fall Chinook forecast.

Larry Phillips WDFW Biologist

Joe Peters followed with a presentation on Squaxin Island Tribe history,  Tribal fisheries, and the Net Pens.

JoeFish speaking about Squaxin SalmonFisheries

JoeFish speaking about Squaxin tribal fisheries

Scott Steltzner gave a talk about the Tribes acoustic tagging study of juvenile coho and Sarah Haque talked about the Tribes work on salmon habitat.

Sarah Haque

Pictures from: 2008 2nd Annual Squaxin NR Summer Youth fishing trip!

On Friday August 15, Squaxin Natural Resources took our summer youth on a fishing trip. This was the second year that we have taken our summer youth out fishing to thank them for their hard work over the summer. It was a beautiful day, even JD made the trip out for a couple of hours!

Darren, Michael and Miguel

Darren, Michael and Miguel

Darren Brownfield managed to catch a number of Spiney Dogfish. Sarah caught a sea star! Joefish had a nice Chinook on but it released the hook before we could get a net under it.

Grey Ghost Fishing crew

Grey Ghost Fishing crew

Captain Billiard of the Grey Ghost

Captain Billiard of the Grey Ghost

What's with this fish with sticks?  Where's the gill net?

What's with this fish with sticks? Where's the gill net?

Daniel got boarded by the U.S. Coast Guard! Well the US Coast Guard basically terminated his voyage…life jacket = check, fire extinguisher =negative, flares= negative, throw able flotation device= negative…..let just say he failed the safety check list.

Attention this is the US Coast Guard

Attention this is the US Coast Guard

Sir when we drove by all we saw was your feet....so we thought we should check on you. By the way do you have a personal floatation device?

Sir when we drove by all we saw was your feet....so we thought we should check on you. By the way do you have a personal floatation device?

Consider yourself boarded by the US Coast Guard....Where is your Fire hydrant?

Consider yourself boarded by the US Coast Guard....Where is your Fire extinguisher?

Mr. Kuntz your voyage has been terminated...please return to shore immediately!

Mr. Kuntz your voyage has been terminated...please return to shore immediately!

After Daniel's run in with the Coast Guard he was to emotionally spent to fish so he went to sleep.

After Daniel's run in with the Coast Guard he was to emotionally spent to fish so he went to sleep on the Grey Ghost as Captain Will's deckhand.

Michael Henderson went home with a nice 12 lbs. Chinook. I have never seen a guy reel in a Chinook as fast as he did.

Thanks Michael, Miguel and Jeffery for your hard work this summer.